tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post4940830487493307377..comments2023-10-22T06:15:30.760-04:00Comments on Boomer Musings: A choice none of us would want to makeDouglashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09752593286034877538noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-844438878253677232011-12-08T18:45:15.743-05:002011-12-08T18:45:15.743-05:00related to this, and also paul's comment (fami...related to this, and also paul's comment (family member...should always be the 5)...anyway, spock's comment always rubs me wrong. probably straying too far into Objectivist territory for comfort, but those people's needs aren't an automatic claim on my abilities. whether it be marxism or choosing the safety of a loved one over a stranger's, the fruits of my actions should benefit those that I choose to help. i might loan money to a friend, but I'm not going to hand out money on the streets, even if some of those strangers might "need" it more. and I value the lives of strangers, but i could possibly value the life of a loved one more or less than X number of strangers. 5 workers vs a family member, who knows, maybe I let the 5 die, despite it being a hard decision. 1 stranger robbing me for money I won't miss to feed his starving family might end up shot without any moral qualms on my part.Steven Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-61304904516284254452011-12-08T18:32:05.345-05:002011-12-08T18:32:05.345-05:00in the immortal words of neil peart, "if you ...in the immortal words of neil peart, "if you chose not to decide / you still have made a choice!"Steven Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-4362665334821241982011-12-08T09:41:16.694-05:002011-12-08T09:41:16.694-05:00I wonder, too, if I could make such a decision in ...I wonder, too, if I could make such a decision in a timely manner.Douglas4517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-21880919020142252882011-12-07T09:01:03.098-05:002011-12-07T09:01:03.098-05:00what's the Spock says in The Wrath of Khan som...what's the Spock says in The Wrath of Khan something along the lines of " logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few..." so I would try to save the many, but that's a lot easier said than done. If I were really in that situation I may freeze and not be able to do anything at all.Tonyhttp://www.lifewithtony.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-12837698150473239102011-12-06T12:54:39.607-05:002011-12-06T12:54:39.607-05:00Tom, One can think of all kinds of parallels, can&...Tom, One can think of all kinds of parallels, can't one?<br /><br />Paul, I wonder. Let me add a variable... you, the switchman, know the "5" are wife beaters, thieves, and lazy (hence, they are unaware of the onrushing boxcar) while the "1" is a guy who dotes on his family and can be depended upon in any situation. So one could not say "can only be".<br /><br />I once answered a similar hypothetical while I was in the Navy and it ended up costing me quite a bit in privileges, reputation, and opportunity. In the short run. In the long run it turned out well, I believe.<br />http://boomer-musings.blogspot.com/2011/10/learning-to-be-swabbie.htmlDouglas4517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-62230847887137131582011-12-06T11:00:10.041-05:002011-12-06T11:00:10.041-05:00yes, killing one to save 5 is the better choice, b...yes, killing one to save 5 is the better choice, but most will say let the 5 die, because then it wasnt "me" that chose to kill the other one, but alas, they are missing that sometimes even indecision, is still a decision, and they "chose" not to act, and let 5 die, instead of one.<br />would i let a family member die instead of the 5? it shouldnt matter who that person is, if you are given the responsibility to make the decision as to 5 or 1, it should always be let the 5 live, unless an added variable is inputted.paul coulternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7561631984395061740.post-71342482988049769652011-12-06T10:17:28.149-05:002011-12-06T10:17:28.149-05:00Well, it's an abstract, or theoretical, proble...Well, it's an abstract, or theoretical, problem, isn't it? So the theoretical answer can only be to kill one to save five. Otherwise, you'd be committing the sin of omission, wouldn't you?<br /><br />Or wait a second, maybe it isn't just theoretical. The runaway boxcar is speeding toward the economy. It will kill the economy if Obama doesn't do anything. So he throws the switch, and bails out the banks. The lesser of two evils. The least bad choice. He's the existential hero.<br /><br />I'm not even sure that's true. I'm just sayin'.Sightingshttp://sightingsat60.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com