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Words to live by...

"How beautiful it is to do nothing, and to rest afterward."

[Spanish Proverb]

Ius luxuriae publice datum est

(The right to looseness has been officially given)

"Everyone carries a part of society on his shoulders," wrote Ludwig von Mises, "no one is relieved of his share of responsibility by others. And no one can find a safe way for himself if society is sweeping towards destruction. Therefore everyone, in his own interest, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle."

Apparently, the crossword puzzle that disappeared from the blog, came back.


Saturday, May 30, 2009

Point-Counterpoint

A friend recently suggested I get together with someone with whom I have clashed on occasion. He thought we might collaborate on some project or other, providing differing points of view. I am sure he means well. And it has been useful to pair people with opposite points of view for CNN, Foxnews, and the lesser news and commentary alphabet channels. Useful for their ratings, I suppose. But for the rest of us? I think we gain very little, if anything.

CBS started it on TV with "Point/Counterpoint" in 1971 (it ran until 1979). And it was quite popular. It even spawned a spoof on SNL's Saturday Night Live Weekend Update. Who can forget Dan Akroyd's opening words in most every counterpoint to Jane Curtin?

"Jane, you ignorant slut!"

The spoof managed to skewer both Left and Right equally (though the show was decidedly liberal leaning). Unlike the original version which tried to elevate both to mainstream status. And failed. What CBS did is discover that viewers like to watch people argue. And, eventually, that spawned countless cable channel commentary programs where guests argue constantly, rudely talk over their opponents, then smile and thank the host at the end of the segment. But what did we, the viewers, actually get out of the exchange?

Nothing more than entertainment. The political equivalent to a boxing match that ends in a draw. The Left-leaners hear only the points made in their favor, the Right-leaners come away with the points made in theirs.

This bit of entertainment is often tried in newspapers and news magazines. Dueling columnists. Op-Ed pages with a balanced mix of opinion pieces from each side. An attempt to publish equal numbers of letters to the editor from each side.

All this seems to do is raise the noise level to intolerable. Well, for me anyway. I stay away from the debate shows. I don't watch Anderson Cooper, O'Reilly, and the rest. But that also means I tend to stay away from the rest of the shows because even they have these pseudo-debates now. And I do not think I am alone.

You see, the shrill factor has been raised to the level where opponents must be vilified. The points being made (or not) have been lost, it's all about the name-calling. This is what happens when opinions, offered reasonably, no longer entertain and no longer draw attention. Instead of reasoned argument, we get ad hominem attacks. Instead of a true counterpoint, we get charges of racism or fascism or socialism or elitism. The proponents of a point of view are labeled in order to diminish the chance of that side's position being examined objectively.

Even the so-called moderates are getting shrill while complaining about both sides.

Whenever I find myself watching one of these "debates", I am reminded of the closing lines of George Orwell's Animal Farm...

The animals, watching through the window, realize with a start that, as they look around the room of the farmhouse, they can no longer distinguish which of the cardplayers are pigs and which are human beings.


...and I change the channel.

[1180/1181/1050]

8 comments:

Neo said...

Great post!

I do agree; as you hear the side you are on and tend to ignore the other, what I would call "selective hard of hearing"
It's like the political debates, yes I want to see how "my" opponent answers to but is it really going to change my mind? Even in desperate failure (john mccane) I still voted the direction I was at the start of the campaign

Cheri said...

Your Orwellian ending marvelous.

Last Saturday, we had a graduation party for my son who invited his friend Sam, a Brit.

Sam and I talked about this very topic and expressed dismay about the shouting, interrupting matches you mention here. His language choice struck me: he hoped for a more measured discussion.

We could use some measured debate on TV.

In the last several months, we have given up all TV news.

Douglas said...

Neo - We are left with such poor choices, I am seriously contemplating joining a third party. Except the only one closest to my philosophy tends to worry me. Am I becoming too radical? I do listen to what the opposition says and I do so often reject it as foolishness or pandering. I often wonder about my own motives in doing so.

Cheri - A wise person, that Brit. We'll never get a measured discussion. The ratings show viewers want the fur to fly, the rest of us (the majority who do not watch) are ignored. And you are definitely right in implying all the news shows have incorporated this style of discussion into their presentations.
Thank you for the compliment. That quote is one of the few that sticks firmly in my mind. It's the cynic's mantra, I suppose.

Inspector Clouseau said...

Just seems to me that there is always some value in exploring the different, the unusual, the uncomfortable, the controversial,and the unfamiliar. Not for everyone, but for some.

Depends on how one wants to spend their time, and what gets them through each day.

Douglas said...

Inspector - This one prefers not to waste time and energy arguing but rather in discussion. I am no longer entertained by people yelling at and over each other.

Steven said...

If you have the time, get involved with a third party and run for a local office. I know I'd like to, once I don't spend 80 hours a week working / trying to form a business / trying to keep my relationships healthy. My party hasn't had a lot of national success, but hearing about local success stories and people that are helped by the IJ gives me small glimmers of hope now and again.

(also, "national success??" I wish our states were more like "nations," and the imperial federal goverment was more like a thin layer of glue with some defense and some money standardization...feels like that might be what some very smart people had in mind about 225 years ago...)

Cheri said...

Your Orwellian ending marvelous.

Last Saturday, we had a graduation party for my son who invited his friend Sam, a Brit.

Sam and I talked about this very topic and expressed dismay about the shouting, interrupting matches you mention here. His language choice struck me: he hoped for a more measured discussion.

We could use some measured debate on TV.

In the last several months, we have given up all TV news.

Inspector Clouseau said...

Just seems to me that there is always some value in exploring the different, the unusual, the uncomfortable, the controversial,and the unfamiliar. Not for everyone, but for some.

Depends on how one wants to spend their time, and what gets them through each day.